Phoebe Scopes, British HSCT Pioneer in Moscow, Part 2
Last week, I introduced you to Phoebe Scopes, the very first MS patient from another country to undergo hematopoietic stem cell transplantation (HSCT) in Moscow. Today, in Part 2,  we pick up the story of the 46-year-old who lives in London.
Ian: So, you had done lots of research. How did things then develop?
Phoebe:Â By late 2009, I had new challenges affecting my balance, coordination, strength and energy which eventually forced me to hang up my boxing gloves. I was devastated about this but still felt I would return to it in time.
Unfortunately, after having a bike accident and a relapse in 2010, my MS appeared to be behaving more aggressively, and I believe that around this time, I transitioned from relapsing remitting (RRMS) to secondary progressive (SPMS). By now, my EDSS (Expanded Disability Status Scale) was fluctuating around 5.5.
It was quite unsettling just how quickly MS disease seemed to take a significant hold as disability quietly crept in, but I refused to be distracted and continued with research.
Ian: How did you find out about HSCT? What attracted you to Moscow? What was your experiences with neurologists at home when deciding to have the treatment?
Phoebe: I came across some news about a lady in Australia that would shortly receive HSCT to cure her MS. I read more information and details about this and realized that I had previously stumbled on the procedure briefly some years before. I had read news that a patient in London received HSCT, contracted sepsis and lost her fingers and toes in the battle to save her life.
At that time, I had been blind to this disease called MS so this news had no relevance to me, but I do remember thinking that the treatment, which involved radiotherapy, was terrible and I would never have something as dangerous as that!
Fast forward to recent years. I was glad to hear that for HSCT, radiation had been replaced with chemotherapy which, although still a serious treatment, appeared to be a safer option.
I was excited that there was at last a treatment that talked about curing MS that didn’t involve a lifetime of interferons and steroid use.
Now struggling with relapses and fatigue, I was very interested to receive treatment and was learning that the most effective results were achieved when the therapy was used early. I found and joined a HSCT forum and from there, wasted no time communicating with others.
At that time, there were few places offering HSCT privately and the questions about safety were never too far away. There was also a great deal of variation in the price of treatment from one facility to another, but most places were expensive anyway and were very selective about the patients they accepted.
I learned from a group member that a facility in Moscow was thinking about opening its doors to treat overseas patients and their price was more reasonable, but this facility did not yet have a specific department designated to handle foreign clients.
I called the hospital in Moscow and requested an email address of the doctor who was responsible for HSCT inquiries and once I had these details, I wasted no time introducing myself, scanning and emailing relevant documents, and basically asking as many questions as I could.
In the meantime, I also requested an earlier appointment with my neurologist to share my findings and let him know that I wished to pursue HSCT.
As I sat across from him in his clinic, my neurologist told me that he would not authorize or refer me for this treatment because I had not first used immunomodulation therapy offered to me on a number of occasions.
He also advised me that I would be ripped off if I were to go to Russia or anywhere else abroad, and that HSCT would kill me.
I was shocked and stunned by my neurologist’s unprofessional and “unkept” response. His comments had an air of panic and concern — but not about my safety. Instead, I wondered whether he was worried about the security of his job going forward if news about HSCT got out!
Next week, in Part 3, Phoebe takes us on her visit to Moscow.
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Mary Holmstrand
Phoebe, great story and I hope you are very well. A few questions. When were you first diagnosed and did I understand that you chose to NOT do any DMDs? How liberating! I would like to know more about that decision and reaction from neuro provider! I recently met a local gentleman who had HSCT at Northwestern in Chicago here in the states after nearly 10 yrs of suffering and changing drugs 4 times (does anyone wonder why an MS pt has to keep changing drugs?...oh, wait, thats right, FDA has to only prove 30% efficacy for approval!) a year out and there is no evidence of MS on any of his MRIs post HSCT. It was not a walk in the park for him but he talked about his rebirth of his new immune system; Like it had been surgically removed from his body, repaired, and put back in to grow anew. Fascinating science!! I get that science!!
Hi Mary, I have never been offered DMTs, nor have I seen a neurologist for 12 years - instead I only seen a specialist MS Nurse. Having said that, I have no desire to take DMTs with their possible side effects. Although I am not a doctor and would never give anyone any form of medical advice, I can say that I am convinced about HSCT that includes chemotherapy. You asked about my diagnosis, it was April 2002. I now have progressive MS.
Dimitri
Congratulations Phoebe!
Great article Ian. I love how you left us hanging for more information.
Hi Dimitri, thanks for your kind remarks.
Teresa Wright-Johnson
Great Article Ian!Congratulations Phoebe. I wish you the best.