#CMSC2018 – Pharmacist Discusses Advances, Challenges in Cannabinoids Research to Treat MS

Written by Alice Melão, MSc |

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Several studies have demonstrated the therapeutic potential of cannabis and its derivate products to manage the symptoms of multiple sclerosis (MS) and other neurodegenerative diseases. But there is still much to be done to enhance their use and accessibility to patients who may benefit from these therapies, according to a recent presentation by Matthew Makelky, PharmD.

Makelky, a researcher at the University of Colorado, reviewed the current status and advances made in cannabinoids use for MS at the 2018 Annual Meeting of the Consortium of Multiple Sclerosis Centers (CMSC) in Nashville, Tennessee, May 30-June 2. The presentation was titled “Hashing it out: Cannabis for Multiple Sclerosis.”

The use of marijuana for medical purposes is currently legal in 29 states in the U.S. Only nine of those states also allow recreational marijuana use. With the trend toward legalizing cannabis, additional pressure lies on clinicians who prescribe it to ensure proper use and administration.

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Cannabis contains more than 100 pharmacologically active compounds (cannabinoids), with the most studied compounds being the tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) and cannabidiol (CBD). Both have been evaluated for their potential to modulate spasticity associated with MS, as well as to manage seizures, inflammation, pain, anxiety, and other conditions.

Theoretically, CBD holds greater therapeutic potential than THC, since the first does not have the psychoactive properties that accompany THC use. Still, this compound is linked to some adverse side effects, such as drowsiness, decreased appetite, diarrhea, fatigue, and convulsion.

The THC compound is the one responsible for the “high” experience people feel when consuming cannabis, and is linked to increased neurological risk. THC has been associated with altered brain development and cognitive impairment when used in early adolescence, but also to an increased risk of chronic psychosis disorders.

According to the American Academy of Neurology, the use of oral cannabis extract (OCE) and synthetic THC improved spasticity-related symptoms and pain in patients with MS.

In contrast, AAN considers there is limited or insufficient evidence demonstrating the effectiveness of oromucosal cannabinoid spray, such as Sativex (nabiximols), or smoked cannabis for these indications.

As for treating MS-related urinary symptoms and tremor, none of the tested forms of cannabinoids have shown compelling evidence of effectiveness, according to Makelky.

There are some cannabinoid-based drugs already available on the market and others are under development. Because of the different effects of each cannabinoid compound, finding suitable dosages and methods of administration, as well as optimal frequency of use, may be both challenging and risky.

Also, cannabinoids may chemically react with other prescribed drugs — increasing or reducing their effects — which adds another layer of potential hazard that should be discussed between patients and clinicians.

In summary, cannabis-derived compounds hold potential to treat MS and “to help specific disease states,” Makelky said. Still, there is a lot to learn about “the complex metabolism and interaction profiles” of these compounds, he added.

Joe Ryan avatar

Joe Ryan

While I appreciate that more studies need to be done all I can say is CBD oils have had a tremendous effect for me. My attitude, physical feeling have improved more than I can quantify or put into words. I will deal with the supposed side effects. The daily impact it has had for me far outreaches and expectations I had.

Joe

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Allis avatar

Allis

CBD has also been helpful for me. I sleep better, overall experience less pain, and it helps my anxiety. I just generally feel better with it than without it.

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Allison M Krulikowski avatar

Allison M Krulikowski

May I ask what kind of oil? I want to make sure I'm getting the right product. Is it just called CBD oil?

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Carlin Tools avatar

Carlin Tools

From my experience there are some better than others as well as the account of cbd on the oil. Charlotte's Web out of Colorado is good.

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James Stewardson avatar

James Stewardson

Suggest you use "Full-Spectrum" CBD oil. It contains 80 or more other distinct cannabinoids, which are individually present in rather low levels compared to the principal ingredient, CBD, but which synergistically enhance the therapeutic effect of the CBD. This improvement of the benefits of solo CBD is commonly known as the "Entourage Effect", and has been well documented in the last few years. Full Spectrum CBD oil also is less dose-sensitive than "pure" CBD oil.

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Sue avatar

Sue

Thank you. I have a meeting on the 13th to hopefully get CBD oil (prescribed here in Canada) so nice to hear it has been helpful.
Sue

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Scott Johnson avatar

Scott Johnson

CBD is legal in my area and I do not want to wait another 5-10 years for more testing...I have had MS 25 years and had flair up after flair up while waiting on clinical trial after clinical trial.

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Kim avatar

Kim

Thanks for your post! I have MS diagnosed in 2014, on Copaxone and doing well. Wondering about using CBD as a sleep aid. Have you heard of any side effects with Copaxone? Thank you!

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Shawn avatar

Shawn

After being on Copaxone for 1.5 years, I began having bad exzema and frequent ‘flushed’ episodes after injection. The exzema did go away sometime after I stopped using the drug.

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George Martin avatar

George Martin

yes

Heather Lee avatar

Heather Lee

pure cbd oil will keep you up at night if taken late. The reason being the cannabinoids in the cbd will be active and working on your brain making it hard to shut off and rest. Thc is great for sleep and there are some cbds made for sleep that will have a higher amount of thc than cbd and some edibles have cbd and have melatonin. You will also see products that have equal amounts of cbd and thc , those won't give you a big high due to the cbd counteracting the high the thc gives. it will be a very relaxing feeling and relieve pain.The only issue I found when doing research and trying many cbs I found the ones that are hemp based only worked a very little and it stopped working at all within a few weeks. the pure cbd with coconut oil or any other natural substance and small amount of thc are the best. Thc is crucial when fighting any illness because when you add the thc it helps direct the cbd to the damaged areas much quicker. you can also find liquid thc and take them together if you can't find a cbd in your area that already has both. I did my research after my father passed and my son was diagnosed with ms shortly after. My son takes Jaydens juice and full spectrum oil which is a more concentrated form of cbd also called FSO. FSO is the same product as RSO also called rick Simpson oil. You can find a lot of info online for all the products I spoke about.

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Trude Ferguson avatar

Trude Ferguson

I’ve been taking copaxone for 25 years. Only side effect was at injection site. However recently my neurologist told me that this drug is now breaking down some vertebrae in my lower back because of the
Length of time I’ve been on it. Causing a great deal of pain for me. I’ve been currently researching CBD oils. Changing my meds is kind of scary for me because I’ve done so well in Copaxone. Good luck. I believe it’s still a safe choice with little dude effects compared to some others.

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Bridget avatar

Bridget

Trude, CBD oil have had great success in MS symptoms along with bone health. I am not a MS I'm a fibro warrior. I had no luck with meds so CBD was my saving grace. Look into CBD to help with your bone health to go along with your meds that are working for you.

Heather Lowder avatar

Heather Lowder

Which brand do you use? I have MS and have been using hempworx but I hear I am being overcharged. Help!

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Marcella avatar

Marcella

Here’s what we use.

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Torrey avatar

Torrey

Press Pause Project is an incredible brand! The CO-founders personally correspond with farmers and manufacturing team. High quality tincture and tastes great! The balm is relief in a jar...immediate soothing relief with essential oils and menthol and deep down healing with arnica and CBd. Www.presspauseproject.com

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Jerrid Walker avatar

Jerrid Walker

theorganicway.ctfocbd.com
Join us!

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Kelley Palomino avatar

Kelley Palomino

Try Endoca. Affordable and batch tested -they add omega oil to it which actually makes it more effective. Everyone in my neuropathy group promotes this brand because it works.

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Tony avatar

Tony

We are new and will be open for business via the web for your needs. Our prices are set below what the current market is charging because of our low overhead and dedicated staff.
We have full spectrum 750mg. Just for your specific needs, also 250mg. But the 750 is a better value because you use less. www.desertedgebotanicals.com

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Colleen avatar

Colleen

I have heard that from other Hempworx customers who have left them and have come over to us. And no, I am not knocking them, just mentioning what others that I know are doing. I have customers through my CTFO CBD business that appreciate the lower prices and appreciate that we now have what is called 500 MG 10X and 1500 MG 10X exclusively with CTFO. And, CTFO is free to join and has a 60 day open bottle money back guarantee. If you or anybody is interested in learning more, please don't hesitate to reach out to me through my link at: colleenf.myctfocbd.com/cbd. I Pray you and everybody finds relief with whatever company they get their CBD through! Happy New Year and God Bless!

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Marvin powers avatar

Marvin powers

Its a shame helping the pain and debilitating illness cant be the subject discussed but an array of sales pitches to fatten ones bank account seems to overide human needs!!!

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Jody Martin avatar

Jody Martin

Www.rosebudcbd.com/?aff
This is a full spectrum oil. Contains 0.03% thc. All organic. Our oil comes from our farm in Oregon.

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Avery avatar

Avery

How much are you paying?

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Bridget avatar

Bridget

Heather, Its also about how much CBD are you getting per dose for that price as well. We have one that gives you 33mg per dose. Yes it's $107 per bottle but your getting 33mg. If you only are needed around 15-16 then your bottle will last twice as long. You can check us out if you would like. www.illuminent.com/?u=bridgethiggs I'm a fibro warrior and unable to take big pharm meds so my search was on and this is the company that provided integrity and more cbd % along with dosage mg. Great group of people. When I say integrity it starts at the top. Bridget

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Michelle avatar

Michelle

CBDinfo.greencompassglobal.com not all CBD oils are created equal and it’s super important to know what you’re buying. In this case if it’s cheap it’s likely not a good product. If you like to read “CBD Oil: Everyday Secrets” by Gretchen Lidicker. It’s a fascinating read (or I listened to it on Audible) and chocked full of great info about the differences among growing and processing.

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caryn avatar

caryn

how much are you paying for it?

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Kelly Thompson avatar

Kelly Thompson

I'm waiting on my package to come in but I just bought CBD Isolate which was awesome cheap in bulk.
7 grams of pure cbd isolate for 160$ canadian...
1 gram is 1000 mg so that's 7000 mg of Cbd!
I belive its Drganja.com.
It's important to have terpines and canabanoids so if you mix it ino your favorite oil it will work best. I hope this really helps!
If you respond I'll tell you how the package turned out?

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Jeanmarie avatar

Jeanmarie

Medtera brand, 50 mg in the morning and 25 mg night. No capacity, less anxiety, sleep

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Helen Mc Donnell avatar

Helen Mc Donnell

I was told I had ms over 8 yrs ago. I only tried cbd oil tonight as I'm only starting! I have spasms an pains in my legs I'm losing the feelings in both hands. My walkin is letting me dwn I lost about 85% walkin.will I give the oil a chance or does anyone no anything stronger or better,I'd try anything at this stage! Tnx H.

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Chelsea Ellis avatar

Chelsea Ellis

Hey Ms Helen my name is Chelsea I've had MS since I was 13 I'm 28 now my MS is getting harder an harder I can walk but just for q short period of time jus want to know what do u do jus want some advice PLEASE an thank u an I pray u get betta

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Sandy avatar

Sandy

My mother was recently diagnosed and I am wanting to know if the CBD helped you after you started taking it?

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Marvin Powers avatar

Marvin Powers

After 2 weeks on cbd i have a near normal gate when i walk with better balance after dragging my weak leg with drop foot for yrs thanks to God who gave me the courage to try it all to his glory give it a chance and the physcian of physcians with prayer God bless and hope it works for you look carefully at the cbd you buy marvin powers

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Greg tully avatar

Greg tully

Hi my name is Greg I have ms 28yrs. recently I have developed more severe side effects but CBF has been life changing i totally agree with you .

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Melissa Cox avatar

Melissa Cox

I have heard the same. But I seem to be the only ms patient who has to stay on opiates bc my insurance will cover those. All the cbd products are so expensive ill never be able to benefit from it. Why do i seem to be the only one? Im single n one income. Is that why? It really bothers me that I have to go thru painful shots n my dr bills $2000 for it. If u could afford the cbd oil i would save my insurance and not have to go thru them
I have the same question about caregivers. I seem to be the only one w out one. Im not so selfish. Im happy there is a natural product everyone else is benefiting from n i can barely keep my power on or buy essentials. Wow

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L avatar

L

What State do you live in? There should be a way to get coverage through insurance for a PCA or HHA.

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Matthew avatar

Matthew

This has been my experience as well so far. It has opened a window that I thought might have been closed permanently.

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Greg tully avatar

Greg tully

I agree it is life changing if you suffer from ms

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Kathleen Odonnell avatar

Kathleen Odonnell

Hi interested in your post. What strength and how much daily of cbd do you take

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Jerry Mcclung avatar

Jerry Mcclung

How much cbd should I take and how often?

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Bridget Higgs avatar

Bridget Higgs

Jerry,
Everyone is different on dosage. We suggest all start with a tincture (drops) under tongue to get your body back in line an in balance. Healing from the inside. These drops can be taken 2 to 3 times a day at 4-6 hours apart. I would suggest our 2000mg which gives you a full 33mg per dose. If you only need 15-16mg to see results then the bottle would last twice as long. Here is our website to look at as well to get to know more about us and our brand. https://illuminent.com/order/Exotics?u=BridgetHiggs&pg=1&items=24 this is CBD with lab showing 99.25% if you need THC as well we have a full spectrum option as well. All lab results are by product and available for your review. If you are on fb here is my page: https://www.facebook.com/groups/SilverLiningLiquid/ Lots of info there as well. I'm be glad to help you on this CBD journey.

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Christopher avatar

Christopher

Hey I've been recently diagnosed with ms and your comments have helped me massively thank you anxiety is terrible but I'm going to try the THC and cbd thank you again

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Bridget Higgs avatar

Bridget Higgs

Christopher,
I would love for you to take a second and let me help you on your CBD journey. Although I am a Fibro warrior instead of MS it has been God sent for sure. Check out my fb page: https://www.facebook.com/groups/SilverLiningLiquid/ Lots of great info and articles on the benefits of premium grade CBD. We have full spectrum or isolate cbd option available. The 2000mg of either will give you 33mg per dose and that is huge when doing research on how much cbd you actually intake vs whats on the outside of bottle. Please feel free to contact me if I can help with your CBD journey. Here's my website too if you want to do research on our company as well. www.illuminent.com/?u=bridgethiggs

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Glenda avatar

Glenda

Thanks for your input, Joe. I think the pendulum has swung and clinicians are more worried about the “Opoid Crisis” or “street drug” use than a patient’s wellbeing. There HAS to something, somewhere to alleviate some of the debilitating effects of MS. Everyone has forgotten that the “high” mentioned above only is associated with the first few doses of any drug without increasing the dosage. I’m glad you’ve found some relief!

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Maria Mouhtad avatar

Maria Mouhtad

I will never use Marijuana to treat my M.S. I do not tolerate even the smell. It is also against my religious belief.

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Beth Boggs avatar

Beth Boggs

I completely understand your feelings regarding marijuana. However, the CBD oil that can be purchased is from the HEMP plant, not the cannabis/marijuana plant. It does not have any odor & it does not have any THC, so there isn't any "high".

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Rob Jackson avatar

Rob Jackson

we will pray for you! see if that helps....

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Rafael avatar

Rafael

Praying does not even trigger Placebo effect.Get real ,use the oils .

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Robert avatar

Robert

Your religious beliefs are wrong this is something god created in the Bible says that he made plants for every disease out there ,it's natural. Your beliefs are far from gods

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Rob Wiebe avatar

Rob Wiebe

Genesis 1:11-12

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Zoe avatar

Zoe

I have probably had undiagnosed ms since I was 18. Legs would give out when pregnant with first baby. Had baby and no more symptoms for years. 15 years ago walking got unsteady. 5 years ago diagnosed with ms. Brain scan showed many many lesions. Just started CBD a month ago and WOW, I am able to walk better then I did before. Hoping it gets better and better. I can get into my bed without a stool. Wonder if memory will improve as I struggle to remember so many names that escape my airy head. I do think CBD is worth a try for you. The price seems to vary from place to place. Perhaps one day the medical insurance will cover it. My neurologist said “go for it” When I told him that I was trying it. Blessings to you. God is not against medical help He did make the plants for a reason

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Patricia S Bullard avatar

Patricia S Bullard

I have had MS since 2006 and I want to begin using CBD to see if it helps me too. I have never used any prescription meds due to the terrible side effects known from them. Can you tell me what CBD Oil you use and how much and how often you use it; please.

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Sally Schneider avatar

Sally Schneider

How much do you take?
I’ve been on .5 to .6 ml
Morning and night. No change with the pain in my legs. Maybe I need to take more but it makes me nervous. Thanks

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Leo avatar

Leo

Which brand do you use?

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International Ann of Mystery avatar

International Ann of Mystery

MS is against MY religious beliefs. So bring on the CBD so I can get back to helping others in need.

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Bridget Higgs avatar

Bridget Higgs

Maria,
I totally understand your stance on Marijuana. I myself am a huge Christian and was 100% against even the idea of CBD. CBD is made from Industrial Hemp plant NOT the Marijuana plant. Kinda like different type of tomatoes there are different types of these plants as well. I have a great article on my fb page that explains the difference. Check it out: https://www.facebook.com/groups/SilverLiningLiquid/ I'm a fibro warrior and unable to take big pharm meds due to side effects so I had to find an alternative and pure 100% CBD from industrial hemp is NOT a drug. Hemp seeds are sold along side sunflower seeds in the store and have zero THC. Please let me know if I can answer or help in anyway.

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Drug free and high on Cbd avatar

Drug free and high on Cbd

I suggest you find a new religion! Does your religion allow you to take dangerous drugs prescribed but a drug selling Dr? Cannabis is a normal plant hahah deluded

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Edith Cheney avatar

Edith Cheney

Shocking that AAN would say synthetic THC is helpful for spasticity and pain. Where I live that is called Spice and is responsible for many hospitalizations and deaths when smoked by young kids.

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Kendra davidson avatar

Kendra davidson

The synthetic thc they are talking about comes from your pharmacy it is called dronabinal it isn't the street one called spice.

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Elizabeth Henehan avatar

Elizabeth Henehan

I medical marijuana for several months. It may have helped my bladder spasms but nothing else. It costs $300.93 a month. Not worth it. I had a 50T:50C ratio first month. Now I'm on
1T:20 C.

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Debbie avatar

Debbie

You should try UltraCell full spectrum hemp CBD oil. You can get it wholesale as well.
Zilis.com/healthencouraging

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D avatar

D

I have tried a1:1 combo in a tincture but the THC set off vertigo. I’m looking to work w/ practitioner to work on the correct ratio for my sensitive system. I could not tolerate oral Baclofen as it too caused Vertigo. Be Well

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Debbie avatar

Debbie

UltraCell full spectrum is a premium product developed by doctors. No prescription needed.
Zilis.com/healthencouraging

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cynthia avatar

cynthia

I have been taking the THC 9.12 mg.per ml.with CBD 9.76 mg. per ml. for 6 months. It is an oil that I mix with peanut butter.....it smells and tastes bad...so you have to mix it with something. I take 1 ml. at night. I do not agree with smoking it or using it to ''get high''......but for medical purposes...it is a wonder drug. The trauma clinic that I go to monitors your use carefully ,and even the supplier keeps in touch about its use. I sleep so very much better-and without jumping out of bed 4 or 5 times a night with leg cramps. It also has greatly improved bladder issues....something I have had for many years. I generally feel so much better....and all on a minimal dose. In my opinion, it is much better to take cannabis oil [ controlled by a doctor] than many prescription drugs that have low success rates and major side effects.

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Broce avatar

Broce

I live in Colorado, and my neurologist and my pain doctor both recommended that I get a medical marijuana license. I use it to help me get to sleep, and stay asleep. I have horrific insomnia, as well as crippling fatigue. I don't find it does anything for spasticity, except to make me focus on it more (and the same with pain). I don't take it during the day because I don't much relish being stuck to the sofa even more than my fatigue requires. It isn't very expensive - an ounce lasts me at least six months, and that's usually around $150-200. I am concerned that the AAN seems to be suggesting that synthetic versions are ok, but natural are not. The thing which gives me pause is the amount of money involved. I don't believe them when they say synthetics are the way to go - I don't trust their associations with Big Pharma.

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Betsy barker avatar

Betsy barker

Anyone try CBD hemp oil? So far, (just a couple of weeks) it is helping. But $$$$$!

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Jeannette Sturman avatar

Jeannette Sturman

Yes for a couple of weeks now and I was hoping that it would help with my RA, since I am on so many meds plus infusions every 8 weeks...so far I notice I feel more relaxed and I am sleeping well and soundly.

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Maryann Wagner avatar

Maryann Wagner

i’m trying it and it seems to help. Some companies offer discount for people on disability or veterans. I find that if you order several months worth, the price is lower. And there are coupons st cbdoilusers.com

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Jerrid Walker avatar

Jerrid Walker

theorganicway.ctfocbd.com
Give us a try. Or prices are the most competitive in accordance with quality.

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Debra Barton avatar

Debra Barton

Cbd oil has been remarkable with me pain and spasms.
My flare is 6 weeks strong and not improving.
Ticfidera is recommended.
Any thoughts????

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Nikki avatar

Nikki

Debra, I’ve been on Tecfidera for 2 years and no relapses. You will prob get flushing ++ but you can tinker with what amounts of food you need to eat before taking it to help there.

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Jennifer S. avatar

Jennifer S.

Tecfidera is okay. There is currently some evidence that treating with stronger medications before our MS gets worse seems to help keep us mobile and active. Tecfidera is considered a weaker/first line treatment. The most important thing is that it works. I just ordered CBD oil for my MS -- the "hug" along my rib cage has been pretty painful lately. What dose do you use?

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Gabrielle avatar

Gabrielle

I have been on Tecfidera since 2013 and I have only had maybe one relapse a year if that. But my spasms are still there and my vertigo is also I have my numbness on the right side. Other than that I am stable. My neuro states as soon as our states is rdy to go with it he is going to give me the go on the CBD Oil.

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Glory Seal avatar

Glory Seal

I have only been diagnosed with MS for a little a year and have to baclofen to control the tremors and muscle spasms 3 times a day and pain meds since I started vaping the cbds I only take 1 baclofen a day and that is only a half pill in morning and at night. The great thing about the cbds is you can take more if you need to without waiting the 4-6 hrs to have to with meds and the worse that can happen is you need a nap.

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Jerrid Walker avatar

Jerrid Walker

I've read in most comments that price and potency are the main issues with CBD oil. I would like to offer you all a solution. We have a number of CBD products that can help with symptoms and treatments, and are also affordable. Take a look!
theorganicway.ctfocbd.com

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Micki avatar

Micki

CBD and THC is available in tincture, gummy edibles and liquids. No smoking needed. Various strengths.
CBD does not require a Medical Marijuana card. Some dispensaries let you in to purchase CBD without a card for entry.
CBD...about 100-150 mg daily relieves pain. Can take more or less as desired. CBD is not psychoactive like THC. No chance of overdosing. Start small and work up to the daily level you need for relief.
FYI...THC Indica for sleep...take 5-10-15 mg about 1 1/2 Hrs before you want to sleep. THC Sativa usage is more for the comfortable high and relaxed feel.
I have cancer and both have helped me along with 1000 mg daily of Tumeric. Check with your docs . Happy Holidays

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Ashley knight avatar

Ashley knight

Hello,well i hope evey one is having a safe and blessed day. Ok i was told back 2013 that i have m.s. six,months later it changed to r.r.m.s. they perscibed Beta serion. Now their talking about changing the medicine to something stronger but who do i talk to about also wanting to try a canibis treatment because i use canibis almost every day does any one have any idea's on who i would talk with i would be very greatful?

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Marie C Boyce avatar

Marie C Boyce

I need information on hemp oil for MS I have had it 51 yrs and don’t want anymore pills.

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Sherry Brewer avatar

Sherry Brewer

Hi I am deaf also have ms since Sept 2010...this my 2nd relapse worse one...i still walk but eyes are bad werid...hard explain...tired of waiting for treatment since my relapse 7 months ago....wondwring if cbd oil will help me relief stressing some tiny numbs I start feel my left leg stiff some pains ...if so which breads of cbc oil I don't work it will be hard to pay if expensive......

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Greg tully avatar

Greg tully

CBF is fantastic I have my life back.

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Paula Somerfield avatar

Paula Somerfield

Had ms for 28 yrs and not had many elapses, very mild. Taking 80 mgs. of baclofen a day. Started marijuana, vaping, but since I'm a 72 yr old innocent, I have no idea how much to take, along with CBD oils. I'm on 1:1 Harlequin flavor and several CBD's, 1:1, under the tongue. I do 8 vapes a day, but not sure if that's enough. I was hoping someone will guide me with suggestions.

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Patricia S Bullard avatar

Patricia S Bullard

I have had MS since 2006 and I want to begin using CBD to see if it helps me too. I have never used any prescription meds due to the terrible side effects known from them. Can you tell me what CBD Oil you use and how much and how often you use it; please.

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Bridget avatar

Bridget

Patricia,
We suggest using the tincture (drops) under tongue. This gets the endocannabinoid system back in line. I would suggest our 2000mg option, this gives you a full 33mg of CBD and if you see results at 15-16mg then the bottle last twice as long. Take it twice a day and if needed a third does can be taken as long as they are 4-6 hours apart. Here is our link: https://illuminent.com/order/Exotics?u=BridgetHiggs&pg=1&items=24 I would be glad to assist you anyway I can. I have a fb page too if you are on fb. Great info on there as well: https://www.facebook.com/groups/SilverLiningLiquid/

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Christine avatar

Christine

I use a tincture from lazarusnaturals.com I have been using their products for about 5 months now, they were recommended by a Dr. from the VA. I have had MS since 1993. It has helped me tremendously with my spasticity, pain, stomach, sleep, and much better mood. I think that it has reduced inflammation because I am noticing a difference with my eyes and skin (I also have psoriasis and it has been clearing, not sure why). Lazarus has a special program for veterans, people with chronic illness like MS, and low-income. They give a 60% discount if you show them your DD214 (military), note from your doctor saying you have MS (for chronic illness), or completing their income statement for low income. I am so happy that I have tried this. It has also helped me to quit taking gabapentin and klonopin, I have not taken either in almost 3 months and do not feel the need to take them.

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ML Majors avatar

ML Majors

Hello all! I was recently diagnosed with MS and DR prescribed copaxone injections. I haven't started the medication yet. Can anyone who has been on this injection, tell me how they are doing and what side affects they might have. I really want to look more into CBD oils and not sure what I am looking for or how much to take. Any advice would be great.

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Vanessa avatar

Vanessa

Hi, this made my MS worse in fact. I started 2010 - 2012 and then quit for a year. In 2013 I started Aubagio which really made a difference. But I didn't see much of a difference in a major way until I started taking CBD.
How much CBD to take is really dependent on the person. I don't get any benefit from a kind that even has 0.03% THC. I started using cbddosagecalculator.com and you can put in your weight, the ailment and severity and it calculates how much CBD to take. It converts your bottles total ml to mg of actual cbd and how much most people of your similar ailment, and weight I imagine react to that and what works. (It's crowd-surfed so people who give their input makes all the difference there.)
I wish you well on your path to healing and wholeness.

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Vanessa avatar

Vanessa

I can attest to CBD (isolate) works amazing. My MS/fatigue/pain/cognitive functions/depression/anxiety/sleep etc are at least 90% better.

**Oh and let's not forget what makes all of those things in my body go wrong - agonizing pain. So when I take CBD I feel as though I have been given a second chance at life. I don't know why so many people are so worried about it.**

The brand I have been using is Elixinol, and it is honestly a game-changer. It helps I work for a chiropractor who sells it. Also the working benefits, of working requires me to use my brain more which in turn prevents any further atrophy. This helps my cog-fog big time as does the ability to be part time. Getting regular chiropractic adjustments and massage therapy are added benefits of working there and they make a huge impact in my overall health and well-being. But without taking CBD they do not quite do enough on their own - only in conjunction with CBD.

It probably does make me more than 90% better - I am just underestimating so as not to sound as though I am exaggerating.
If we are cursed with this suffering with this disease, the blessing in disguise, or silver lining if you will is the profound way that CBD works on all of my body's natural cannabanoid receptors in each and every bodily system. The benefits go far beyond what issues I have listed and I can only say that I have not noticed any side effects. Except things in my life falling together again, rather than apart. But that is a huge blessing rather than a a side affect.

Before starting CBD, any meds I am given before this I was able to come off most of them. I take aubagio for MS, and prior to that (2010-2012) I tried copaxone and it made me worse.

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Dave

OK, SO WHATS HAPPENING IN THIS THREAD IS EXACTLY THE PROBLEM WITH CBD. A newbie to CBD hears all of this great stuff and has no clue about the
the vast DIFFERENCE between hemp CBD
and cannabis CBD.
(Most of the time)
Nobody in this thread explained this. Two different stratosphere’s regarding results. If your new to CBD and you
Can buy it on a website
To be shipped to you,
It’s from hemp ONLY.
Hemp CBD is a stark
contrast to cannabis
CBD. Please make
You know difference
between what you
read and what you
Are buying.

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sherri gibson

A trusted source for my fibro is lilmsgrowitall . com I have been using these products for a few years now. It has great info and knowledge on hemp vs cannabis vs charlottes web.

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